In the mid 90's they had Thomas and Julius Jones. I would also argue that Bishop was a better runner that what they have now. The game is different now, well not the game the state. If PV goes to the I like so many PV fans wish to do, and they get the hell beat out of them (like they did against Norton in 05) and are only able to beat the bottom feeders everyone will scream for Phils head. I agree a lot comes down to how much your putting forth (in terms of players) but in the end there doing the best with what they have. The drills are still the same, the coaching is still the same, theres only so much a coach can do.